@neomaxcom You bring forward a very interesting point.
Tesla is driving their EV battery to home/grid to their solar systems. Will it be proprietary? Likely. So why would Aptera choose Tesla's plug if it pigeon holes the consumer into using one system? If it meant that the ability to use V2G would be compromised, I am not a fan of the Tesla charging system.
Otherwise I do see the benefits of the Tesla Charging Network. It's established, well thought out, pretty hassle free and allows for long trips without hunting for charging.
I think a universal charging port standard needs to developed very soon.
I would also like to see the USA go to a standard charging port standard like the EU. It is my understanding with the new addition of a few more inches to the length of the Aptera there will now be a lift up lid in the front of the vehicle to possibly have the ability to add up to four different charging ports. According to their online presentations they are not only committing to Tesla ports. They just showed a Tesla port on there first prototype photo.
I live in a county that some demographers call a 'pickup truck county' ... and since there are few public charging locations - my experience is limited to the J1772 plug and my charging is almost 99 percent done at home. With no DCFC in my car, I've been disinterested regarding questions surrounding charging networks.
If the aptera comes with a Tesla socket it could charge on J1772 chargers as well thanks to adapters - that are available on Amazon - like the Lectron j1772 Tesla Adapter
I've got a level II charger at home and the ability of the Aptera to get an appreciable charge from 110v level one so access to the Tesla network is not a critical point ... even if I were traveling.
While we understand Aptera's never-charge feature is part hype, I also know that unless you are on a cannonball run, even the standard solar combined with even a 250 mile battery (25kw) will make charging almost a secondary consideration.
I wonder if Aptera could leave the charging network to the choice of the buyer? I.e. if Elon wants the customer to pay $100 for the right to incorporate the Tesla charging infrastructure, he'll license that plug to Aptera who will install it for those buyers that choose it.
I'm pretty sure if we can go to the moon, Aptera could engineer multiple charging ports and a 'switch' to change from the J1772 plug to the optionally (also) equipped Tesla plug, but the Tesla plug could just as easily be an 'upgrade' who feel compelled to fill their 1000 mile battery to 800 miles in less than 30 minutes.
Even more elegant, and probably this would get Musk's attention, is that the J1772 plug comes standard but if you want to tie the Aptera to the grid with a direct DC connection, you have to opt for the Tesla plug therefore allowing you to participate in the grid-storage scheme he's cooking up.
Actually, it is not clear to me given the battery size, solar supplemented Aptera will have DC fast charging standard on the Aptera as for many uses, it is not needed. We all know that DC fast charging was considered an option on the Leaf, SparkEV and Bolt and not even available on the Volt or Fiat 500e.
@BMW Bloch If the port is on the front you can also put the front wheels away from everyone turning into and out of the spots next to you - Widest part in first makes sense to me.
@neomaxcom You bring forward a very interesting point.
Tesla is driving their EV battery to home/grid to their solar systems. Will it be proprietary? Likely. So why would Aptera choose Tesla's plug if it pigeon holes the consumer into using one system? If it meant that the ability to use V2G would be compromised, I am not a fan of the Tesla charging system.
Otherwise I do see the benefits of the Tesla Charging Network. It's established, well thought out, pretty hassle free and allows for long trips without hunting for charging.
I think a universal charging port standard needs to developed very soon.
I live in a county that some demographers call a 'pickup truck county' ... and since there are few public charging locations - my experience is limited to the J1772 plug and my charging is almost 99 percent done at home. With no DCFC in my car, I've been disinterested regarding questions surrounding charging networks.
I do like it when I learn something new.
If the aptera comes with a Tesla socket it could charge on J1772 chargers as well thanks to adapters - that are available on Amazon - like the Lectron j1772 Tesla Adapter
I've got a level II charger at home and the ability of the Aptera to get an appreciable charge from 110v level one so access to the Tesla network is not a critical point ... even if I were traveling.
While we understand Aptera's never-charge feature is part hype, I also know that unless you are on a cannonball run, even the standard solar combined with even a 250 mile battery (25kw) will make charging almost a secondary consideration.
I wonder if Aptera could leave the charging network to the choice of the buyer? I.e. if Elon wants the customer to pay $100 for the right to incorporate the Tesla charging infrastructure, he'll license that plug to Aptera who will install it for those buyers that choose it.
I'm pretty sure if we can go to the moon, Aptera could engineer multiple charging ports and a 'switch' to change from the J1772 plug to the optionally (also) equipped Tesla plug, but the Tesla plug could just as easily be an 'upgrade' who feel compelled to fill their 1000 mile battery to 800 miles in less than 30 minutes.
Even more elegant, and probably this would get Musk's attention, is that the J1772 plug comes standard but if you want to tie the Aptera to the grid with a direct DC connection, you have to opt for the Tesla plug therefore allowing you to participate in the grid-storage scheme he's cooking up.
Actually, it is not clear to me given the battery size, solar supplemented Aptera will have DC fast charging standard on the Aptera as for many uses, it is not needed. We all know that DC fast charging was considered an option on the Leaf, SparkEV and Bolt and not even available on the Volt or Fiat 500e.
Great! Now if Aptera could offer Super Charger and CCS ports on the front hood instead of behind the back license plate that would be nice.
Elon Musk Tweeted today that the supercharger network will be made available to other makes later this year, not next.
Nice
Re Superchargers:
This could be a beginning to good news…
https://electrek.co/2021/06/24/tesla-confirms-plan-open-supercharger-network-other-automakers-next-year/
I.e. if it happens globally and Tesla gets the needed funding