It never hurts to reach out to others that share your world view in regard climate change and the imperative to convert to electrically powered vehicles. It is important to grasp that while EVs and ICE vehicles use different energy sources, they operate on the same plane. I.e. 4-wheel (more for trucks) vehicles on steel frames with steel bodies.
The preference for EV's is because ICE vehicles, by their very nature, waste 75-80 percent of the energy they consume, losing it to heat whether in exhaust or through friction (braking). EVs are inherently more efficient.
The Aptera, from what we've all read, holds efficiency as a first principle and that is disruptive to the goals of an industry group in some areas.
For instance, this organization would spend more money for more EVSEs with DCFC capability ... even if reducing the number of these installations could fund the installation of 1000 Level 2 or 5000 level 1 (110vac) charging stations per DCFC install, the latter being all the charging infrastructure needed for the Aptera.
The CEOs will tell you that the Aptera is disruptive tech. I don't think even they grasp how disruptive. The manufacturing approach, which from my understanding has more in common with bass boat manufacturing than the model T or the Hummer EV, is at the core of this and implies a path averse to 'automation' of assembly and is more artisanal in its core. It is in those processes and the ability to 'distribute' assembly in something entirely different.
I can't attend that event but I do have a personal connection to my NY state senator and assemblyman. I am planning to talk to them soon about getting autocycles reclassified so drivers do not need motorcycle licenses. If I understand things correctly there was legislation to do this in NY several times over the last decade that never passed. I'm planning on starting a thread specific to NYers when I am ready to do the outreach to see if we can create a coordinated push. Any suggestions welcome.
It would appear to be a legitimate effort aimed at using lobbying, among other techniques, to foster faster adoption of EVs.
It seems to be oriented toward folks in the electric generation industry (Duke Energy, Southern Co., PG&E ... and some start up EV makers like faraday, Lordstown and Lucid. A good deal of the emphasis will be on the installation and distribution of EV Charging stations with some obvious interest in some of the big EVSE's able to charge at 50-100 kw DC fast charging.
This industry group is less impressed with the ability to charge the Aptera with 120vac at the rate of adding enough power with that 900w solution to add 25 miles in an hour of charging.
The start up EV manufacturers all seem aimed at making sure there is a way to replenish their hogdog BEVs with 200 miles of added range in under an hour.
The problem with that solution is that when you only get 2.4 miles/kw ... you can consume a ton a kw's in a days drive.
The Aptera, OTOH, is designed to be charged ever week or two with plugging in being used to replenish the typical 40kw battery to compensate for a difference in distance between what is lost in driving by what is added by the integrated solar cells.
In a sense, the Aptera would benefit from more level 2 and fewer DCFC or Tesla type charging stations. This is different than the majors who need to replenish the enormous batteries in a EV-f150.
Can I get some help checking them out and help me vet them before I dump my off time into this, please? ABOUTWhat is ZETA?The Zero Emission Transportation Association (ZETA) is the first industry-backed coalition of its kind advocating for 100% of vehicles sold by 2030 to be electric vehicles (EVs). Achieving this goal will create hundreds of thousands of new jobs, secure American global EV manufacturing leadership, dramatically improve public health, and significantly reduce carbon pollution.Secure American global EV manufacturing leadership, dramatically improve public health and significantly reduce carbon pollution.
It never hurts to reach out to others that share your world view in regard climate change and the imperative to convert to electrically powered vehicles. It is important to grasp that while EVs and ICE vehicles use different energy sources, they operate on the same plane. I.e. 4-wheel (more for trucks) vehicles on steel frames with steel bodies.
The preference for EV's is because ICE vehicles, by their very nature, waste 75-80 percent of the energy they consume, losing it to heat whether in exhaust or through friction (braking). EVs are inherently more efficient.
The Aptera, from what we've all read, holds efficiency as a first principle and that is disruptive to the goals of an industry group in some areas.
For instance, this organization would spend more money for more EVSEs with DCFC capability ... even if reducing the number of these installations could fund the installation of 1000 Level 2 or 5000 level 1 (110vac) charging stations per DCFC install, the latter being all the charging infrastructure needed for the Aptera.
The CEOs will tell you that the Aptera is disruptive tech. I don't think even they grasp how disruptive. The manufacturing approach, which from my understanding has more in common with bass boat manufacturing than the model T or the Hummer EV, is at the core of this and implies a path averse to 'automation' of assembly and is more artisanal in its core. It is in those processes and the ability to 'distribute' assembly in something entirely different.
I can't attend that event but I do have a personal connection to my NY state senator and assemblyman. I am planning to talk to them soon about getting autocycles reclassified so drivers do not need motorcycle licenses. If I understand things correctly there was legislation to do this in NY several times over the last decade that never passed. I'm planning on starting a thread specific to NYers when I am ready to do the outreach to see if we can create a coordinated push. Any suggestions welcome.
It would appear to be a legitimate effort aimed at using lobbying, among other techniques, to foster faster adoption of EVs.
It seems to be oriented toward folks in the electric generation industry (Duke Energy, Southern Co., PG&E ... and some start up EV makers like faraday, Lordstown and Lucid. A good deal of the emphasis will be on the installation and distribution of EV Charging stations with some obvious interest in some of the big EVSE's able to charge at 50-100 kw DC fast charging.
This industry group is less impressed with the ability to charge the Aptera with 120vac at the rate of adding enough power with that 900w solution to add 25 miles in an hour of charging.
The start up EV manufacturers all seem aimed at making sure there is a way to replenish their hogdog BEVs with 200 miles of added range in under an hour.
The problem with that solution is that when you only get 2.4 miles/kw ... you can consume a ton a kw's in a days drive.
The Aptera, OTOH, is designed to be charged ever week or two with plugging in being used to replenish the typical 40kw battery to compensate for a difference in distance between what is lost in driving by what is added by the integrated solar cells.
In a sense, the Aptera would benefit from more level 2 and fewer DCFC or Tesla type charging stations. This is different than the majors who need to replenish the enormous batteries in a EV-f150.
Can I get some help checking them out and help me vet them before I dump my off time into this, please? ABOUT What is ZETA? The Zero Emission Transportation Association (ZETA) is the first industry-backed coalition of its kind advocating for 100% of vehicles sold by 2030 to be electric vehicles (EVs). Achieving this goal will create hundreds of thousands of new jobs, secure American global EV manufacturing leadership, dramatically improve public health, and significantly reduce carbon pollution. Secure American global EV manufacturing leadership, dramatically improve public health and significantly reduce carbon pollution.
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